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posted by Anonymous at Monday, December 04, 2006
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always, always a little off centre and never as expected. the first looks familiar though but the second and third, especially the third is startling.
Wonderful work. Discharge disturbs in glorious ways. As CJ says, your three-part strategum works well; an progression, a natrrative, is inferred. Having to scroll through adds to this, I think.
i ,and stickleback, are very much into narrative art. the pair of us went to a wonderfull old converted hydraulic pumping station in wapping, london which is now a restaurant and art gallery. we saw the works of deborah turbeville. incredible stuff.
this though is far more spooky than that ladies work.
For me, CJ, it hasto have a narrative - to be telling a story. I like patterns and colours and abstract this and abstract that; but I am drawn toward something which attempts to say something capable of being understood, rather than intended to be closed-off, occluded, opaque. My own preference within that isfor a surreality rather than direct and didactic comment. I like images which seem to offer connections, but which mess things up a bit.
i have never studied art in the way you have but i understand what you mean. i love francis bacon's art and that to me has a story running behind it but what about pollack? his stuff seems pretty random and yet, for me, that is the nature of ALL things. kind of tao.
i also like, and have been trying to produce over on another site, bits of my art that is sort of textural. so that it is random and abstract but also seems to be a sculpture of sorts. a bit like eva hess. (not half as clever as that though)
I like the disturbing nature of these, and like you say, I like the idea of the narrative of art. I also like the way that juxtaposition of disparate images can make stories. I like the last one, for personal reasons. I love the way they've been displayed as well. I like the tactile look of canvas laid out like that. That makes it for me and adds to the images. That abandonment - relates to the woman in the final picture.
CJ: It's relative at bottom. Personally, I like a thing which tells a story or at least conjurs something up, evokes, prompts, etc. I have an appreciation of Abstraction - purist stuff like Mondrian and Pollock, and abstract elements in the work of, say, Constable, Kitaj, Kippenberger, Bacon, Beuys. Paint does nice things. Colour is a wonderful thing - in and of itself; just aswords make nice sounds and nice shapes. It is just a personal preference, but I like these building blocks to work in favour of communication, communality, reciprocity. In my own work, I mix and match as you do; because I see the blog itself and my myspaces as one thing: murmurists. The message, as it were, is the whole thing. So I can post a picture of Derek Bailey, next to a picture of a screaming head, or a horse sniffing another horse's arse! It's a continuum for me. That is why I like the linear and temporal nature/structure of blogger.com. It's like a roll of paper; last thing is the first thing; that kind of thing. It's always contemporary, as it were. Those posts which do not garner a reaction in the form of a comment, fade away, into the archives. I like that. I tend to re-use words and phrases, as titles; and I re-post images sometimes, too. It's a conversation, I think; and I think conversation is fundamental to us all.
Molly: The word 'disturb' is an interesting one, I think. Within it lies the notion of something horrific, of course; but it also suggests a kind of wake-up call to me, too. It's like those near-silent passages on The Drift, that get followed by loud passages. Walker is disturbing us, I feel, waking us up. I love the melodrama of that, and of Discharge itself. That's why it suits me, and, I feel - I hope - I suit it. To disturb is, I think, different than to shock. Like you, I like the episodic, three-part nature of this piece. That always infers a beginning, middle, and end. The brain looks for a story, and it sees it temporally. A good device.
I assume, though, that the middle image was meant to be first?
dr A>>>you certainly suit discharge, you are very much what i had in mind hen we started this team site.
it is very organic in that it started from one point and has evolved into something other than what it first was. still the same at the core but different in texture and flavour.
what i am trying to do, whilst you wonderful people do what you do, is fit in around you and compliment the bits of disturbing, probing art with equally provocative 'word bites'. one liners mostly that either slap you in the eye or make you think 'hmmm, what the F?'
of course i don't always get it right. both in terms of what i do and sometimes with the people i have invited on. mistakes though that some how add to discharge rather than detract from it. and unlike clifford duffy of 'taking the broom' or loki of 'tuche & automaton', i don't 'collect' bloggers just to swell the ranks. not that i am knocking either of those people, both of whom i admire BUT discharge has a very sharp focus.
i think that ten contributors to this site is more than enough and the time will come when one or two will depart.
your point about people desiring pleasant comment responses is also accurate.
when i first started my 'ritual acts with penguins' site (now 'factor ape sex') all i wanted was to write and bugger peoples opinions BUT...those sweet comments can be as equally destructive in one way as they can be well intentioned for they make you lose sight of what you originally started blogging for.
that doesn't happen here as everything happens in a very WHAM BAM THANK YOU MAM fashion.
long may it last.
and thanks again to you all for being so passionate with all you post here.
x
Without sounding too touchy-feely, CJ, I'm honoured to be part of this clutch of bloggers. I've always liked the loose association but with a kind of group identity thing: like Fluxus; each person isthemselves, but it's always Fluxus, too. I choose what to put on here pretty carefully. It isn't just an extention of my own blog. I like that interuptive - having to think what will work. You make a good point about the effect of positive commentary and regular visits by certain people - as a shaping, a priori, self-censoring factor. One's art can be a brand even at blogging level, as it were. It is for the sharing of those kind of insights I come to sites like this and make comments of my own. Thanks for the food for thought.
Try that email again please. Put 'murmurists' in subject. I tend to delete anything suspicious-looking; so I may have killed yours!
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